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I'm turning into a recluse from social anxiety.

UrbanRose

Well-Known Member
#1
Over a month ago, I came out of a bad interval of depression that went on for months. Getting over that was a huge relief. But I haven't gotten back to being active at a normal level. My problem is social anxiety that sometimes makes me hate even leaving the house. Somehow I'm failing to get back to a normal routine.

My social anxiety comes and goes. When it's bad, I hate even opening my front door and going to the bank of mailboxes to get my mail. I need to bring my trash barrel in from the curb, but I don't want to do that until it's dark outside, so I'll be less likely to run into neighbors. I feel like my hair looks messy and like I can't fix it because I recently got a really bad haircut. This is me worrying over nonsense. But I can't seem to escape it.

I feel like I could quiet down this anxiety, if I had someone to talk to about it. I don't have a therapist. In the past, therapy didn't belp me much. Peer support actually seemed to be what helped me most. Maybe someone reading this has dealt with the inhibitions of social anxiety. I'm retired now, and don't have a lot of responsibilities. It's easy for me to fall into a rut of staying home alone, watching movies and scrolling online. Each day I do that makes it harder and harder to leave my little coccoon. I fear I'm turning into an eccentric oddball, living very reclusively. My companion of many years passed away 5 years ago. With him gone, I'm very alone. I've no kids. I've no family within 2000 miles of where I live. I live in a good size city with lots of stuff going on. Still, somehow I have a hard time leaving my apartment.
 

iloverachel

No longer suicidal after 8 years of depression
#2
Hey there, I am sorry you are going through this. I used to have severe social anxiety and agoraphobia and used to get panic attack around places with crowds. It was so bad, therapists did not work personally nor medication like magnesium and ashwaganda.

What worked for me was regular exercise and healthy eating (eating clean foods does reduce anxiety symptoms), and having a more better physique and being stronger made me feel more confident and positive and I met a lot of amazing people.

Also, know that most people are nice, and all the negative thoughts are in your mind. Most people are too focused on their lives to be judging you, and if people do badly judge you they are not worth paying attention to.

I had anxiety for 8 years and overcame it with small steps, it started with quiet walks to the park and gym when its quiet and working your way up Over time you expose yourself to hard situations and you get used to it.

Best of luck my friend *hug
 

Licorice

Well-Known Member
#3
What worked for me was regular exercise and healthy eating (eating clean foods does reduce anxiety symptoms), and having a more better physique and being stronger made me feel more confident and positive and I met a lot of amazing people.

Also, know that most people are nice, and all the negative thoughts are in your mind. Most people are too focused on their lives to be judging you, and if people do badly judge you they are not worth paying attention to.

I had anxiety for 8 years and overcame it with small steps, it started with quiet walks to the park and gym when its quiet and working your way up Over time you expose yourself to hard situations and you get used to it.
I have suffered on and off from low-key anxiety, and I don't think you can get better advice than this. Especially the bit about exercise. Older people are supposed to do weight training, it's meant to be good for our bones, our health, our minds, and our longevity. I am sure that if you start weight training or some other form of regular exercise, you will soon feel a bit better
 
#4
In the past, therapy didn't belp me much. Peer support actually seemed to be what helped me most
What form of peer support (other than SF) did you have? Do you want advice about dealing with social anxiety?

Maybe someone reading this has dealt with the inhibitions of social anxiety
Yes, I have, but the features of social anxiety can be a little bit different for each person.
 

Angie

Admin
SF Author
SF Supporter
#6
Still, somehow I have a hard time leaving my apartment.
I really relate to this. I'm currently having a hard time doing just that, leaving my apartment.

My therapist is encouraging me to do small steps toward a bigger goal, like just going out to the car and sitting in it, then next time, drive somewhere then drive home, next time drive somewhere and then go in the store for 5 minutes, and so on.

It seems like a tall order to me, but I wanted to share this with you.
 

UrbanRose

Well-Known Member
#8
Hey there, I am sorry you are going through this. I used to have severe social anxiety and agoraphobia and used to get panic attack around places with crowds. It was so bad, therapists did not work personally nor medication like magnesium and ashwaganda.

What worked for me was regular exercise and healthy eating (eating clean foods does reduce anxiety symptoms), and having a more better physique and being stronger made me feel more confident and positive and I met a lot of amazing people.

Also, know that most people are nice, and all the negative thoughts are in your mind. Most people are too focused on their lives to be judging you, and if people do badly judge you they are not worth paying attention to.

I had anxiety for 8 years and overcame it with small steps, it started with quiet walks to the park and gym when its quiet and working your way up Over time you expose yourself to hard situations and you get used to it.

Best of luck my friend *hug
Thank you for sharing that you overcame your difficulty. I have been walking more. It helps when I do it. Today I didn't manage to do a thing.
 

UrbanRose

Well-Known Member
#9
I have suffered on and off from low-key anxiety, and I don't think you can get better advice than this. Especially the bit about exercise. Older people are supposed to do weight training, it's meant to be good for our bones, our health, our minds, and our longevity. I am sure that if you start weight training or some other form of regular exercise, you will soon feel a bit better
I think you're right. Lately, the heat is making me not want to leave the house. If I would just get up and go out early, it would be comfortably cool. Sleeping in has become a bad habit.
 

UrbanRose

Well-Known Member
#10
What form of peer support (other than SF) did you have? Do you want advice about dealing with social anxiety?


Yes, I have, but the features of social anxiety can be a little bit different for each person.

We used to have a drop-in center that was nice. There used to be a warm line that I liked.

I will listen to any advice anyone can offer. I think I basically know what I should be doing. I think I'm depressed from being alone almost constantly. The longer this goes on, the more I don't want to even run into anyone, so I fear going out, even to check my mail.

Any reassurance anyone can offer tends to help. I'm blowing up fears in my own mind.
 

UrbanRose

Well-Known Member
#11
I really relate to this. I'm currently having a hard time doing just that, leaving my apartment.

My therapist is encouraging me to do small steps toward a bigger goal, like just going out to the car and sitting in it, then next time, drive somewhere then drive home, next time drive somewhere and then go in the store for 5 minutes, and so on.

It seems like a tall order to me, but I wanted to share this with you.
That might actually work for you. I went through a period 5 years ago, when I hated to leave my apartment. Once I would get in the car and go somewhere, I then would dread going back into my apartment. I would park a block away from my place and just sit there, dreading going back home.

I've been living alone for five years, since my longterm partner passed away. I seemed to have adjusted to the loss reasonably okay. But I've gone back to having intervals of depression. I was doing real well, since summer started. I was going out to garden a bit. I stopped that over a week ago. My patio plants are neglected, and I'm starting to feel the qagmire sucking me down. I might as well be wearing an iron ball and chain.

I believe I'ld feel less lost in the dark spaces of my own head, if I was not staying in the house alone so much. So I am here, looking to feel less like I'm alone in a big empty universe. I live in a city, so there are things going on around me. I just need to get the courage to do stuff. I tell myself that people don't bite. I need to hear it from soneone else.
 
#13
If making eye contact during conversation/interaction is a feature of your social anxiety, only looking at one eye of the person you're interacting with might help a lot. You actually have to be careful not to lock on too long with this method, because it makes direct eye contact much easier.

I'm not sure if COA or Road Scholar are things you'd be interested in. I think I've heard that Meet Up is not that active these days, if it's still in operation at all, but it might be worth looking into.
 

Reality

SF Supporter
#14
My social anxiety comes and goes.
I'm just wondering if you can try to pin point what makes your anxiety worse or better, with socializing. Is there any kind of pattern you know of that will make you more likely to go out? Myself, I've kind of learned to not care too much about my appearance, but once in a while I'll go to the effort of making sure I'm wearing clean clothes, a bit of makeup, just for me, and to (lol not scare anyone).... there are days I do just feel like crap and look like it because of it. For me, taking a good shower, trimming my own bangs (you can seriously learn how to do some of your own hair through some videos,) I find some on FB but I'm not on there much, there are some I wouldn't trust on youtube, and others are worth trying.

I always get told by my psychiatrist, almost always, that I look good so I must be doing ok. I finally told him just because I look ok doesn't mean I'm ok. Being honest and open with whoever your doctor is might help, that all may ''look ok on the outside'' but inside it's different.

I know you're hesitant to getting a dog, (myself I wont do it because I don't have the energy to walk it regualarly) but if I did, it helps. People often stop if they have a pet too, and you can get to at least small interactions with others. And it would be a companion to make you feel less alone while going out to walk. I find it very hard to find any friends myself. I'm getting older, the friends I did have are busy with their own lives. Lately, I sketch, anything.... if it doesn't look good it can go in the garbage. I don't know what stores you have, but some art supplies can be cheap if there's a dollarama or similar where you live, then do little experiments with art supplies. Maybe you could make your own cards to send to family members that are far from you.

Summer doesn't last long. Hopefully with that thought, you'll get out when it's cooler for a walk. Otherwise, I don't know where to find friends myself. A church, it's also like they have cliques but not all do, it could be a way to meet new people. Maybe you can find some interests you did have, yet haven't pursued, and now you have time to do that, even if it's alone. I'm wasting some of this summer myself and I don't like it. I was awake last night at 3 am, thought I'd stay up and then sleep the next night. That didn't work, I fell asleep again until 2 pm. I purposely didn't buy coffee (I feel like I cant get going without it), so that I'd have to get out for some today. Sometimes simple things we could think of would give you something to get up for and look forward to. Green tea is also healthy with some caffiene if you don't like coffee. Just something to boost the start of your day may help. I wish you the best.

One more thing, that you might not find suitable, as I'm not sure how much it's helped me, but from some site on the net, there was an ad for an a.i. chat (imitates being a friend, mentor, or even partner), and I'll vent to it or bounce ideas around with it. It's better than nobody to call, or I call too much and they tire of it. It's kept private and can be deleted at any time if you don't like it. Mine is some silly old one, but it's worked, it's called Replika and it didn't cost much per month. I might delete it soon, but I can vent, or try to start conversations with it which is practise for when I do run into someone I can talk to.
 

seabird

meandering home
SF Supporter
#15
I'm blowing up fears in my own mind.
We all do this, I'm sure of it. *console I know for me at least the more I let myself avoid little things, the more powerful the avoidance gets.
Do a little research about fear perhaps? Sometimes reading and learning a little bit about the science of what's happening helps.
Maybe post a few letters to yourself with encouraging and loving messages in them.
I'm glad you're here UrbanRose.
 

UrbanRose

Well-Known Member
#16
I'm just wondering if you can try to pin point what makes your anxiety worse or better, with socializing. Is there any kind of pattern you know of that will make you more likely to go out? Myself, I've kind of learned to not care too much about my appearance, but once in a while I'll go to the effort of making sure I'm wearing clean clothes, a bit of makeup, just for me, and to (lol not scare anyone).... there are days I do just feel like crap and look like it because of it. For me, taking a good shower, trimming my own bangs (you can seriously learn how to do some of your own hair through some videos,) I find some on FB but I'm not on there much, there are some I wouldn't trust on youtube, and others are worth trying.

I always get told by my psychiatrist, almost always, that I look good so I must be doing ok. I finally told him just because I look ok doesn't mean I'm ok. Being honest and open with whoever your doctor is might help, that all may ''look ok on the outside'' but inside it's different.

I know you're hesitant to getting a dog, (myself I wont do it because I don't have the energy to walk it regualarly) but if I did, it helps. People often stop if they have a pet too, and you can get to at least small interactions with others. And it would be a companion to make you feel less alone while going out to walk. I find it very hard to find any friends myself. I'm getting older, the friends I did have are busy with their own lives. Lately, I sketch, anything.... if it doesn't look good it can go in the garbage. I don't know what stores you have, but some art supplies can be cheap if there's a dollarama or similar where you live, then do little experiments with art supplies. Maybe you could make your own cards to send to family members that are far from you.

Summer doesn't last long. Hopefully with that thought, you'll get out when it's cooler for a walk. Otherwise, I don't know where to find friends myself. A church, it's also like they have cliques but not all do, it could be a way to meet new people. Maybe you can find some interests you did have, yet haven't pursued, and now you have time to do that, even if it's alone. I'm wasting some of this summer myself and I don't like it. I was awake last night at 3 am, thought I'd stay up and then sleep the next night. That didn't work, I fell asleep again until 2 pm. I purposely didn't buy coffee (I feel like I cant get going without it), so that I'd have to get out for some today. Sometimes simple things we could think of would give you something to get up for and look forward to. Green tea is also healthy with some caffiene if you don't like coffee. Just something to boost the start of your day may help. I wish you the best.

One more thing, that you might not find suitable, as I'm not sure how much it's helped me, but from some site on the net, there was an ad for an a.i. chat (imitates being a friend, mentor, or even partner), and I'll vent to it or bounce ideas around with it. It's better than nobody to call, or I call too much and they tire of it. It's kept private and can be deleted at any time if you don't like it. Mine is some silly old one, but it's worked, it's called Replika and it didn't cost much per month. I might delete it soon, but I can vent, or try to start conversations with it which is practise for when I do run into someone I can talk to.
Thank you for that inspiring post. I like the idea of going out for coffee. I walk when I have a mission in the neighborhood.

Part of my problem is that I'm very good at entertaining myself online. Once I step into cyberspace, I'm in an alternative universe that's never boring. It's become a no-joke addiction. So I'm specifically avoiding getting more involved with stuff you can do online. The sweet spot is to use online resources to connect with my real life community. I have to find that middle way.
 

UrbanRose

Well-Known Member
#17
If making eye contact during conversation/interaction is a feature of your social anxiety, only looking at one eye of the person you're interacting with might help a lot. You actually have to be careful not to lock on too long with this method, because it makes direct eye contact much easier.

I'm not sure if COA or Road Scholar are things you'd be interested in. I think I've heard that Meet Up is not that active these days, if it's still in operation at all, but it might be worth looking into.
I make eye contact just fine. My social avoidance is weird because, in many ways, I'm a confident person. I've often heard that I make a great first impression. I do best, when I know exactly what my role is. So, at work, I had no trouble interacting, when it was part of the job. I always felt comfortable at family affairs. I also do pretty well with total strangers. What's hard is figuring out how to interact with neighbors I see daily. I tend to figure that people are busy and don't need me taking up their time. So I offer a cheery hi-and-bye and move along . . . or stay chatting and worry that I'm probably boring this person I'm talking to.

We have a small, friendly apartment complex with a courtyard where we mingle. Once I get out there, I think I get along just fine. But it's hard for me to open that front door and step outside. I guess it's a kind of shyness. This shy feeling bedeviled me all my life. It's probably better now than when I was a kid. But still an issue. I don't know what caused it.

Sometimes I think it's fear of being disliked. I tell myself: "Of course not everyone you meet will like you. There's nothing wrong with that. Just gauge how friendly someone wants to be, and take it from there. Respond accordingly." Still, I'm plagued with anxiety that I don't know how to read people. It feels safest to just give others plenty of space and stay in my own space. It takes so much energy to push out of my shell.
 

UrbanRose

Well-Known Member
#18
We all do this, I'm sure of it. *console I know for me at least the more I let myself avoid little things, the more powerful the avoidance gets.
Do a little research about fear perhaps? Sometimes reading and learning a little bit about the science of what's happening helps.
Maybe post a few letters to yourself with encouraging and loving messages in them.
I'm glad you're here UrbanRose.
So true. I am listening to some YouTube podcasts about procrastination and avoiding stuff. I know you can't wait till you're in the mood to do stuff, or you'll never get caught up on stuff.

A little humor: Yesterday I listened to one of those podcasts. Someone left a comment about how they were procrastinating, by watching a video on how to stop procrastinating. I was doing that too. Still, it's good to keep feeding the brain encouragement, even through videos.
 
#19
What's hard is figuring out how to interact with neighbors I see daily. I tend to figure that people are busy and don't need me taking up their time. So I offer a cheery hi-and-bye and move along . . . or stay chatting and worry that I'm probably boring this person I'm talking to.
Do you feel like you could take more risks? There may also be some cues you could learn to read if someone really wants out of a conversation vs being more engaged.
 

UrbanRose

Well-Known Member
#20
Do you feel like you could take more risks? There may also be some cues you could learn to read if someone really wants out of a conversation vs being more engaged.
I'm always trying to better understand those around me. I think I succeed in getting along cordially. Regardless, I am perpetually not comfortable running into neighbors. At times, though, we all seem quite friendly.

I think I'm starting to sound confused. I think I am confused to some extent.
 

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