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Empathy Only Vegetarianism and Veganism - SUPPORT ONLY, NO DEBATING.

Widowedvegan

Well-Known Member
#22
Thank you for sharing this. You have had a lot of loss. I'm so sorry. I understand about being so hurt that you can't bear the idea of harming others. As a vegan, there's a certain amount of misery that you're just not inflicting on others. I struggle with wine too. I went 7 years without drinking, then last year I lost the sight in my right eye and started again. I'm sorry you have to put a mask on to present to the world. Thank you for posting.
Hey there @Dalida
Wow! Loosing the sight in your right eye must be difficult and quite hard on you…
Not drinking for 7 years is quite an accomplishment! I hope that you are proud of yourself and can imagine that if you did it once you can do it again!
Stress and loss tests us to the max… Try not to be too hard on yourself…
 
#23
Yeah me too @Dalida
I just don’t understand How people can turn a blind eye to All the suffering in the world and then act as though Vegans are the ones who have a problem…
As a vegan and a lesbian, I have come to learn that the dominate culture is very fragile and will come down on you like a ton of bricks if you're different. <MOD EDIT: Guidelines> People can be cruel and hedonistic - their pleasure trumps everyone else's pain. That ugliness in humans is one reason I'm sure that one day I will opt-out and die by my own hand.
 
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#24
RECIPE: Tasty Rice and Vegetable Taco Filling - can use in stuffed peppers, quesadillas, wraps, burritos, tacos, baked stuffed potatoes, or as salad topping. It can be made vegan, vegetarian or with meat.

I make a double recipe of this and use for several meals. My fussy husband loves this. It can be eaten on its own but I like it best in quesadillas or on top of salad.

Ingredients:
Rice - 1.5 cups cooked basmati white or brown rice.
1/2 cup cooked black beans (I used canned and rinsed)
1 tsp taco seasoning (I use Fody)
1 tsp extra-virgin olive oil
1/2 cup salsa (I use Fody)
1/3 cup corn kernels (I used mixed chopped frozen veg- peas and carrot and corn)
Optional: cilantro, diced green onions

Protein additions: (optional)
- can add diced firm tofu or veggie ground round or texturized vegetable protein (meat eaters may also choose to add diced cooked turkey or chicken)
- after cooking, but before baking, can sprinkle shredded non-dairy or dairy cheese on top

Directions:
Put oil in pan (I use a wok) under low-medium heat and add the rice, salsa, vegetables, beans and any optional protein. Sautee together for about 10 minutes until hot--if the rice is freshly cooked and hot it may require less time. Then scoop onto plates or into tacos, wraps, or onto salad. Sprinkle cilantro over top if desired.

If baking in half bell peppers, can scoop this mix into the cleaned-out raw half peppers and bake on a nonstick pan for 30-40 mins at 400, with shredded cheese on top if desired.

If adding to potatoes, bake the potatoes first, then cut potatoes in half and top with this, and can add shredded cheese on top and brown under broiler for a few mins if desired.

If making quesadillas, add a little shredded cheese inside the tortilla wrap if desired, and brown the quesadilla on each side for 2-3 minutes in a low- medium heat pan sprayed with nonstick cooking spray or a little olive oil.

Note: I re-heat the mixture in the microwave for a minute or two before re-using for latter meals.
 
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#25
As a vegan and a lesbian, I have come to learn that the dominate culture is very fragile and will come down on you like a ton of bricks if you're different. <MOD EDIT: Guidelines> People can be cruel and hedonistic - their pleasure trumps everyone else's pain. That ugliness in humans is one reason I'm sure that one day I will opt-out and die by my own hand.
I find people to be very polarized. Trying to figure out who is "right" is exhausting. It reminds me of a Buddhist story (note: I am not Buddhist) when two men were having a dispute and asked the Buddha to resolve it. He said "Well each of you has his view and each is totally convinced he is correct, so to me you are the same."

I'm finding the philosophy of Stoicism is really helping me to feel less exhausted - one favourite new quote is "You don't have to have an opinion." As someone who has always held strong opinions, this is liberating and very relaxing for me. Yes, the Stoics commit to live with virtue, specifically Courage, Justice, Wisdom and Temperance. However, this is an inner goal and you do not push these values onto others. Nor do you judge yourself by how others treat you.

The ancient Stoics were actually very cynical about human nature, and Marcus Aurelius said
“When you wake up in the morning, tell yourself: the people I deal with today will be meddling, ungrateful, arrogant, dishonest, jealous and cruel. They are like this because they can't tell good from evil. But I have recognized that the wrongdoer has a nature related to my own - not of the same blood and birth, but the same mind, and possessing a share of the divine. And so none of them can hurt me. No one can implicate me in ugliness. Nor can I feel angry at my relative, or hate him. We were born to work together like feet, hands and eyes, like the two rows of teeth, upper and lower. To obstruct each other is unnatural. To feel anger at someone, to turn your back on him: these are unnatural.”
 
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LumberJack

Huggy Bear 🐻
#27
So yesterday I made a lentil soup for dinner. It had the traditional soup veggies- onion, celery, and carrots. I did add some meat as my housemates are not vegetarian, and I didn’t want to feel like I was pushing it on them. I was okay with the carrots and onions, but celery is not my favorite.

So I have a lot of work to do to get used to those fibrous things that are good for health. The lentils overcooked slightly but I would rather have that than undercooked. Plus the recipe made enough for 6-8 servings, so I have lunch solved for a few days.
 
#29
Useful vegan resource! ->

The Cruelty Cutter app is one of the best vegan apps to determine whether or not a product and company tests on animals. It's pretty basic, but the scanner works well and the history section is useful when you need to go back and see past scans. Overall, this is an essential app for vegans and those looking to purchase only cruelty-free products.

https://cruelty-cutter.org/
 

IDontWantToDie

I will crawl away for good
#30
So I made these veggie patties and it's the best thing ever, why would you eat meat if you can make something like that? Also, I made veggie chili and it kicked ass as well. Spicy, savory and cruelty-free.
The only thing I don't like about a vegetable-based diet is that you have to cook and it takes a long time. I'm around the house right now, but I have no idea how will I manage cooking while working five days a week.
 

Widowedvegan

Well-Known Member
#31
So I made these veggie patties and it's the best thing ever, why would you eat meat if you can make something like that? Also, I made veggie chili and it kicked ass as well. Spicy, savory and cruelty-free.
The only thing I don't like about a vegetable-based diet is that you have to cook and it takes a long time. I'm around the house right now, but I have no idea how will I manage cooking while working five days a week.
Honestly making Vegan or Veggie food doesn’t really take any more time…
Just remember to make balanced meals…
Examples are -
Rice - beans - veggie
Pasta - tofu - veggie
Potato - veggie burger - veggie
The possibilities are endless!
It is So easy to eat well and eat Cruelty Free!
It is also much cheaper and far more nutritious!
Try using grains that you haven’t tried before, cook potatoes in many different ways, vary the kinds of vegetables you eat…
Try to use less sugar, salt and oil…
It may take a while to change your taste buds, but it truly can change your Health!
 

IDontWantToDie

I will crawl away for good
#32
Honestly making Vegan or Veggie food doesn’t really take any more time…
Just remember to make balanced meals…
Examples are -
Rice - beans - veggie
Pasta - tofu - veggie
Potato - veggie burger - veggie
The possibilities are endless!
It is So easy to eat well and eat Cruelty Free!
It is also much cheaper and far more nutritious!
Try using grains that you haven’t tried before, cook potatoes in many different ways, vary the kinds of vegetables you eat…
Try to use less sugar, salt and oil…
It may take a while to change your taste buds, but it truly can change your Health!
I personally could live on oatmeal all my life (as I once did *facepalm), I have the most trouble with my boyfriend as he's a man, and it is impossible to stuff him, also he's into eating tasty but at the time he's not into grain and stuff, and he doesn't like soup, and the food has to be fresh... ugh, well, he's a challenge. But since he has high cholesterol the bastard has no choice now, yay for me! (Sorry about the rant)
Well, I don't know, all that steaming and cutting and frying... ugh... I just don't have the speed for it. Need quicker recipes, but I'm sure I'll manage with time.
 
#34
Maybe try getting a bag of frozen mixed veggies, or veggies like carrots, green beans, corn, and peas and cook them in the microwave. If you get a potato cooker bag, you can also easily make baked potatoes or sweet potatoes in the microwave easily.
vegetables like greens or cruciferous taste awful to me. I only like peppers and onions right now.
If you don't eat any leafy greens, you may get a vitamin k deficiency eventually.
supplements such as B12
Maybe b12 would help, and probably at least wouldn't hurt. You have to be careful with a supplement like iron though, and you can get plenty of iron in a vegetarian diet.
should I transition gradually
imho, yes.
how to get enough protein
Beans are a great source. I like chickpeas and blackbeans, but there's lots of good beans out there. Cooking dried beans is cheap and probably best, but you'd need a pressure cooker and would have to be able to invest the time and effort. Canned beans are ok, but it's important to rinse them thoroughly to get the salt and preservatives out.

Also, eating less meat rather than being a pure vegetarian might be a good option for you.
 

LumberJack

Huggy Bear 🐻
#35
So I had a vegan salad for lunch today… but I ended up putting some chicken on it. I was afraid that something that was just lettuce and vegetables would not be filling.

For those who still remember, how did you get past the “I need a lump of protein in my stomach to feel full” barrier? I have heard that the Japanese don’t feel like they’ve eaten unless they have rice. I am like that with meat, even though I have ethical reasons to eat vegetarian.
 

IDontWantToDie

I will crawl away for good
#36
Does anyone know any good falafel recepies?
I made some today, but they didnt stick together too well so I added egg and it was okay. Is there a way to pan fry this thing without adding egg?
 

IDontWantToDie

I will crawl away for good
#37
So I had a vegan salad for lunch today… but I ended up putting some chicken on it. I was afraid that something that was just lettuce and vegetables would not be filling.

For those who still remember, how did you get past the “I need a lump of protein in my stomach to feel full” barrier? I have heard that the Japanese don’t feel like they’ve eaten unless they have rice. I am like that with meat, even though I have ethical reasons to eat vegetarian.
I just go for legumes. Lots of protein and vitamins.
I recently began trying to skip meat again and found that vegan chili, veggie burgers and falafel is filling and tasty. Salad is frightening tho... I understand what you mean.
 

KM76710

Kangaroo Manager
SF Pro
SF Supporter
#38
I just go for legumes. Lots of protein and vitamins.
I recently began trying to skip meat again and found that vegan chili, veggie burgers and falafel is filling and tasty. Salad is frightening tho... I understand what you mean.
Black eyed peas are something I have pretty regular especially in hoppin' john which can easily be made vegetarian and vegan since it is mainly peas and rice and it is very filling. :)
 

LumberJack

Huggy Bear 🐻
#39
Black eyed peas are something I have pretty regular especially in hoppin' john which can easily be made vegetarian and vegan since it is mainly peas and rice and it is very filling. :)
How do you make it without ham? My mom used to make black eyed peas and split pea soup with a ham hock… not sure I would be able to do without that flavor.
 

KM76710

Kangaroo Manager
SF Pro
SF Supporter
#40
How do you make it without ham? My mom used to make black eyed peas and split pea soup with a ham hock… not sure I would be able to do without that flavor.
I know of some that will make tempeh into a salt pork style of substitute. Not bad really, but it is one of those things that although good is not quite the same if you are used to the original. Much like diet soft drinks may taste good and be refreshing but Diet Coke will never be Coke.
 

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