How to work a full 8-hour day?

How do you work a full 8-hour day without doping and improper relaxation?
By doping I mean things like coffee, cocoa, tea, pills, nicotine and such like.
By improper relaxation I mean things like alcohol and other drugs, even in small amounts.
At the same time, a person must remain focused throughout the day, week, month, year, years. Of course, taking into account a vacation of 3 weeks a year.
And a person should not feel physical pain in the body, should feel inspired every morning and do his work very well during the day, and not only sit at work.

Are there people who can do this all their lives and still have good physical and mental health and a good income? Is that even possible? How?

Hi @Gard
I have had many different jobs over the years, so i speak of some experience. I would say it depends on the jjob to whether you can get through it, all day, everyday.
Ive worked jobs in retail, stacking shelves or on the checkout. This job was good, one of those jobs you didnt think about once your shift finished. You could function pretty tried, as there wasnt much to think about. I also worked those kind of jobs with more responibility, managing other people. These jobs your more likely to take thoughts about the day home with you and need time to switch off after your shift.
When i was younger and having a few mental health issues, i worked a full time job and a couple of part time jobs for extra money. But one job in an art galley, they put me on a drinks table to serve guests coming to view this artist. I had a bit of a drink problem at the time and served one drink to a guest and drank one drink. Ended up getting shit faced and had to leave work as i was paralytic. You can guess i didnt go back! Anyway, that was 20 plus years ago.
Are you asking because your looking for a job?
I think its good to have a job, good to try out different things to see what you like.

You have a lot of diverse experiences. Thank you for sharing. It was especially fun that you had a guest drink

I ask because I'm trying to make myself want to work at least an 8-hour day. In Ukraine it's from 9am to 6pm. 1 hour for a break.
Since I stopped drinking alcohol I have body pains that don't go away. I have a hard time getting myself to work in the afternoon. Mornings are my most productive time. I am an early riser, I have about 6am right now and I woke up 1 hour ago. Until 12 noon is my most productive time. But in the afternoon, I am no longer as productive.
Basically I need to force myself to work 12-15 hours a day because I need to earn money for my housing and for my pension in my old age. At the moment I'm living in a rented apartment, and that won't change unless I put in the effort. But I don't know where to get them. My body is resisting.
If I use a lot of coffee, cocoa, tea - I can stay awake all day, but then I can't sleep at night. In which case I don't get the sleep I need, even though I still wake up early. I don't even use my alarm clock. And without sleep I don't have the necessary vigor and focus, so I can't do my work well. So again I drink a lot of coffee, cocoa and tea, and again I can't fall asleep at night. It's a vicious cycle.
I found a way out, that I just need to work less and more efficiently in the morning. However, then my employers don't need me. And there is no state support for me.
I keep looking for a way out, I don't give up. I decided to ask on the forum. Maybe one of the participants will say something interesting that will give me insight.
My thoughts at the moment are - who came up with the 8 hour work day in the first place? Why does it have to be exactly 8 hours? Does everyone really like it? Does everyone really feel inspired by the impending waste of time at work?
When I saw work as having purpose and perspective, it looked a little different. My body also ached, but the work seemed interesting. In any case, I can't see my future as one where I'll be plowing like a horse in a field for the rest of my life. That would demoralize me. I wish this kind of work schedule would end before I retire. If I have a pension at all. If I ever live to see it. I don't really want to.

I do factory work for a living. I make okay money.

The biggest thing for me is really interest in job. Sure I deal with aches and pains but I'm enjoying learning how to operate complex machines and how to problem solve at a basic level in terms of automation.

I drink significantly less then I used partially I think because of the work I do. The amount of abuse my body could take when I had a dedicated desk and office space is a lot greater vs standing on my feet all day and moving around.

I'm a caffeine junky partially cause I have let my physical fitness slip. I used to bike 10 miles a day cause I didn't have a car.

The physical pain element of things is just age. I fractured my shoulder almost a year ago now and even today it hurt really bad. Arguing with that is a waste of time. I have high arches in my feet. What's the alternative? Spirit has to be willing when the body can not.

It has taken on a toxic meaning but I'm very much a believer of the mantra as crude as it may be "conquer your inner bitch"

I also heard once a guy during a workout video with a crossfit athlete say "I would rather die then leave unfinished"

I have tried to adopt that as a life mantra.

For a while, that kind of mantra worked with me. Sometimes it starts working again.

When I used alcohol, I had an easier attitude towards work because I was able to relax my body on a regular basis. When I drink a lot of coffee - I can get more work done as I can get more focus and energy.

My question is, without external doping and improper relaxation, how do I work a full day? Is this even possible? Who is doing it?

If it's not possible without external intervention, then maybe it's wrong? Could it be beyond standard human strength? Here's what I mean...

I dunno. I'm not overly thoughtful regarding caffeine. It's a tool like any drug technically.

My relationship with booze is complicated.

Stuff like this where I think being philosophical as much as I enjoy kind of misses the point

Like even at my worst bouts of depression I still made it to work most of the time cause I didn't really have another option. Roof over head and food on stomach depression was better then cardboard box under a bridge.

I enjoy the challenge of working life

I often get angry at the lack of alternatives. And also a sense of hopelessness. On the one hand I can't work full-time without doping and complete relaxation, and on the other hand, if I don't, I will die of hunger and cold.
I'm not against working. But if working that way is detrimental to my health, what's the point of it? To end up a falling apart old man in my old age from all the doping and improper relaxation? Do I want that? No.
And my anger is directed at the structure of society. I don't understand why people accept these slave conditions.
Sure, for a roof over their heads and food in their stomachs. And maybe a little extra joy.
But at what cost?
And is there any other way out? I'm trying to find it. It's not working out so well.

For me it was finding things that I could get paid for that challenged me in terms of personal development.

This had it share of bad long term but one of the big things my grandmother would say to me as a way to berate me and break my spirit was to harp on me regarding how I talked. I'm a very shy nerd with a very active imagination that enjoys paradoxically a lot of attention. As a child of course I'm going to do weird shit....but for her it was the end of the world anytime I did anything even the slightest bit off the beaten path which changed seemingly daily. She once had a argument with me for hours for shutting our front door for a week in winter without asking her.

I developed a neuroses about personal interactions from that...anything beyond "hello" felt threatening after awhile. It still sometimes does.

So as I got into my mid to late 20s and got a better sense of what normal was and how fucked up I was I decided that I wanted to defeat that fear.

Every job I did after that choice had the added benefit of getting me more comfortable with speaking and existing.

This peaked in my early 30s when I found that I could manage a team of 15 people without any issue other then fatigue. Practice made perfect

To me shit like that is as much a part of working and the salary.

I had a team too, but of 5 people. I managed it very well. And my boss got good money from my work. That was a few years ago.
There are ways to grow professionally, for sure. But only at the cost of my health. In this mode, I don't see any possibility of living to retirement. And if I do, it will be without health. Not from old age, but from an unhealthy lifestyle.
So what's the point? To satisfy my current lust for money and recognition? I am not attracted to the cost of this issue.

So again what is the alternative?

I have thought that maybe if I make it to retirement I would work in a animal shelter.

The idea of work being unhealthy seems arbitrary to me.

I'm still thinking about it. And I'm asking for people's opinions.
It's not the work itself that's unhealthy, it's the duration of the work.
I still can't find people who don't use any doping or improper relaxation, and work full-time, always full of energy and concentration. Do such people even exist? Where are they? I want to learn from their experience.
And if there are no or very few such people, then the logical conclusion is that this length of work is not healthy.
Why else would they constantly use substances that are harmful to their health?
Alcohol - harmful to health even in small amounts. Alcohol is a poison, it is always removed from the body.
Caffeine - is detrimental to health, it tricks our mitochondria. When the body feels naturally tired, caffeine is the very substance that blocks the feeling of tiredness.

Not to be a smart ass but talk to Mormons.

I wouldn't mind if my body wasn't sore from that kind of work schedule. I haven't had alcohol for 2 years. I didn't feel such body aches before. I speak from experience.
@mormons What do you think?

Mormons are a religious group....no caffeine no booze no premarital sex.

Yeah, I know. I don't like all their rules. I like some of them, though.
Many of them work full time, always have a lot of energy and focus? I don't know much about their lives.
What health problems do they have as a result of such labor?

No idea....but the ones I have known are normal in basically every way besides the wacky choice in religion.

I don't really know what else that I can say that is useful

I'm not a religious guy.
But the people I know who lead relatively healthy lifestyles, work full time, have health issues. Especially musculoskeletal problems.
That's why my question came up.

Thank you for your participation.

I dunno. Join CrossFit or something health nut driven.

Im probably to much of a old school fart to give you the answers your wanting or validation to what you feel.

I've had a good exercise routine for 3 years. Less now, but not quitting completely. The body is demanding on its own. But without caffeine and supplemental vitamins and protein, it's pretty hard.
My question is more about the limits of human resources without improper and even harmful supplementation.
Why should I harm my health to survive now and have problems not now but later? What is the point of this effort then?
Real suicidal thoughts in this regard. And I don't see a way out.