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can’t let go

Gonz

₲‹›Ŋʑ
#1
I’ll keep this short. Been gone awhile so, for those that don’t know or don’t remember, my wife died suddemly and unexpectedly six years ago and I have not dealt with it well.

So, I still wear both of our wedding rings and I keep her ashes in my room. My therapist has been kinda pushing for me to stop doing both. She’s brought it up multiple times now. My reaction to that is… not positive. Taking off the rings, or putting her ashes somewhere feels like I’m letting it be okay that she’s gone. I can’t do that, and it kinda offends me that someone would even ask.

But she said something that stuck with me, and that I have trouble arguing against. She said it’s as though when Jessica died I dug her a grave, crawled in with her, and am refusing to come out. Kind of a blunt, almost harsh, way of putting it. Thing is, she’s not really wrong. Not entirely anyway. But that doesn’t change the fact that I just plain can’t do what she’s asking.

Seems like everyone wants or expects me to move on, but what is there to move on to that’s worth giving up the last remnants of the only thing that ever really mattered in my life?
 

seabird

meandering home
SF Supporter
#3
I think, for now, you might take a certain amount of time to honestly consider. Not to act on anytning. Only to deeply look at how you feel about yourself. Are you wanting give that a go?

I hope I write this with the kind of care I feel here. You and your wife will no matter what always be bonded, nobody is going to change that fact.
Is it a positive idea that your wife would want to so to speak go forward with(in) you into a new chapter of your lives? If so, is there anything that interesrs you, that'd be your natural inclination.

I'm so sorry for your loss @Gonz .
It was a long time ago for me but due to my own experiences, I understand about not being able to let go.
 

littlestarsmum

Well-Known Member
#4
I’m so sorry for your loss, friend. My heart goes out to you. Losing a special person in our lives is the most difficult thing to go through. While no two people grieve the same way, it’s important to let yourself go through the process and give yourself as much time as you need. I know it’s not easy but stay strong. Sending hugs & prayers your way.
 

Holding my breath

SF Pro
SF Supporter
#5
I can relate to not being able to let go. For me, it’s not letting go of completely different things to you, but I understand how real that barrier can be. That invisible solid brick wall that you simply cannot get past. Sometimes you can tell yourself that what they are asking you to do should be so simple and yet the thought of it just makes you feel sick.
Your wife will always be with you, part of you, in your life, in your memory and in your heart. Her love for you and your love for her will always be there. You don’t have to let her go.
*hug Xx
 
#6
Imho, you never have to let go of your love for her. You do have to accept that she's not physically with you, and that your love for her has to take a different form.

Maybe you could strive to help people who in some ways are a lot like her. Her DNA is still out there in the human race, and there are still people who embody some of the qualities that she had. You can express your love for her through other people.

While I obviously never knew her, it's also reasonable to say that being miserable in her memory is the last thing she ever would have wanted. You really owe it to her to strive to be happy, even if you never "move on".
 

dandelions

me
SF Supporter
#7
I’ll keep this short. Been gone awhile so, for those that don’t know or don’t remember, my wife died suddemly and unexpectedly six years ago and I have not dealt with it well.

So, I still wear both of our wedding rings and I keep her ashes in my room. My therapist has been kinda pushing for me to stop doing both. She’s brought it up multiple times now. My reaction to that is… not positive. Taking off the rings, or putting her ashes somewhere feels like I’m letting it be okay that she’s gone. I can’t do that, and it kinda offends me that someone would even ask.

But she said something that stuck with me, and that I have trouble arguing against. She said it’s as though when Jessica died I dug her a grave, crawled in with her, and am refusing to come out. Kind of a blunt, almost harsh, way of putting it. Thing is, she’s not really wrong. Not entirely anyway. But that doesn’t change the fact that I just plain can’t do what she’s asking.

Seems like everyone wants or expects me to move on, but what is there to move on to that’s worth giving up the last remnants of the only thing that ever really mattered in my life?
i just have my own thoughts that may not apply at all but since i find this story touches me, i have a feeling my thoughts might matter and so i want to offer something.

my thoughts are that you should never end that part of your life - but being buried is kind of like an ending. how simple of me to think that i could even put words and expressions into her feelings when i don't have any access, but i still feel that celebrating jessica's life does not have to be something of only the sadness and being buried.

remembering does not need to be done in an isolated, sad or temporary way in order to be an appropriate celebration. i think her smile must still be alive and i think needs the happy back-up. that my by thinking would be how to not let go. grieving can always exist yet turns into the happiness and becomes grief that is a celebratorious thing instead.

and i don't think letting go of being buried, is letting go of her. it just allows you to feel good in a way that does feel good. it is no secret what she means to you. i feel it never should be a secret. and i think being in the world and not being buried can be freeing and become happy celebration. i think that wearing her ring - i personally think wearing hers alone - is good. to me, that is happy and is not being buried. the sacredity of this can allow you the freedom to move in the world and be present on the terms you need but find the happiness that exists around too.

👽
 
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seabird

meandering home
SF Supporter
#8
Have you found any release from the grief by reading?
If your eyes feel strained or weak, listening to an audio version might be okay.
I mention this because I find it helpful to read. There were a couple of fiction stories involving loss of a loved one that for whatever reason, really went home to the heart of things.

Thiniing of you.
hugs @Gonz
 

So so tired

Well-Known Member
#9
I’ll keep this short. Been gone awhile so, for those that don’t know or don’t remember, my wife died suddemly and unexpectedly six years ago and I have not dealt with it well.

So, I still wear both of our wedding rings and I keep her ashes in my room. My therapist has been kinda pushing for me to stop doing both. She’s brought it up multiple times now. My reaction to that is… not positive. Taking off the rings, or putting her ashes somewhere feels like I’m letting it be okay that she’s gone. I can’t do that, and it kinda offends me that someone would even ask.

But she said something that stuck with me, and that I have trouble arguing against. She said it’s as though when Jessica died I dug her a grave, crawled in with her, and am refusing to come out. Kind of a blunt, almost harsh, way of putting it. Thing is, she’s not really wrong. Not entirely anyway. But that doesn’t change the fact that I just plain can’t do what she’s asking.

Seems like everyone wants or expects me to move on, but what is there to move on to that’s worth giving up the last remnants of the only thing that ever really mattered in my life?
Hi

I'm so sorry for your loss. I can relate so much to everything that you have said.
My husband died 6 years ago this month but it feels like it was yesterday.
I wish it was as easy to move on as professionals seem to suggest.
Moving on seems to represent forgetting hubby and that's something I could never do.
I wish things were not so painful for us.
Hugs *sadhug

So so tired.
 
#10
Someone here said energy is never destroyed, it only changes form.

I believe we carry a representation of a beloved person with us, and that representation is stronger the closer we were to them. Not the same as memories. This is an entity within us, that allows us to know what that person would say or do in a given situation.

So my question is, what would Jessica say?

My personal feeling is if the ring or keeping her ashes makes you feel better, then why stop? Only if you feel they are holding you back in some way would it be needed to put them somewhere else - maybe a safe deposit box. Perhaps there is another way to "move on" other than removing a piece of jewelry. What do you think Jessica would have wanted done with her ashes?
 

Gonz

₲‹›Ŋʑ
#12
I think, for now, you might take a certain amount of time to honestly consider. Not to act on anytning. Only to deeply look at how you feel about yourself. Are you wanting give that a go?

I hope I write this with the kind of care I feel here. You and your wife will no matter what always be bonded, nobody is going to change that fact.
Is it a positive idea that your wife would want to so to speak go forward with(in) you into a new chapter of your lives? If so, is there anything that interesrs you, that'd be your natural inclination.

I'm so sorry for your loss @Gonz .
It was a long time ago for me but due to my own experiences, I understand about not being able to let go.
That’s kinda what my therapist has settled on asking me to do. Not commit to any course of action, but to just consider things for a while.

Thing is, there’s nothing left that I want out of life. I mean, if I was the only person I had to consider, I’d have killed myself within days of her death. I still would but, now that I know what it’s like to find someone you love dead, I can’t put my family through that.

So all I really want anymore is to live out whatever time I have left with a minimum of pain until I can finally go without causing anyone else too much pain either.

I mean “moving on” feels a lot like letting go of what little sources of comfort I still have, and for what? What do I get in exchange for that? Nothing I actually want.
 

Gonz

₲‹›Ŋʑ
#13
That invisible solid brick wall that you simply cannot get past. Sometimes you can tell yourself that what they are asking you to do should be so simple and yet the thought of it just makes you feel sick.
You kinda touched on something here that I’ve been thinking for a long while. The way a lot of people talk about these things (this situation in particular, but also when it comes to emotion in general) it almost seems like they can choose how to feel at any given time or about any given situation and are surprised that others can’t.

I can force myself to go through the motions, to do things I don’t want to do. But I can’t force myself to want to do those things. And I’m not some enlightened Buddhist monk, I can’t make myself stop wanting what I do want, even if I know it’s gone forever.
 

Gonz

₲‹›Ŋʑ
#14
While I obviously never knew her, it's also reasonable to say that being miserable in her memory is the last thing she ever would have wanted. You really owe it to her to strive to be happy, even if you never "move on".
She had a chance to prevent that. Many chances. If she wanted for me to not be miserable, she should have listened on the many many occasions when I begged her to stay clean and told her the pills were going to kill her.

Sorry. I love her and miss her so fucking much, but there’s still a lot of anger there too.
 

Gonz

₲‹›Ŋʑ
#15
i just have my own thoughts that may not apply at all but since i find this story touches me, i have a feeling my thoughts might matter and so i want to offer something.

my thoughts are that you should never end that part of your life - but being buried is kind of like an ending. how simple of me to think that i could even put words and expressions into her feelings when i don't have any access, but i still feel that celebrating jessica's life does not have to be something of only the sadness and being buried.

remembering does not need to be done in an isolated, sad or temporary way in order to be an appropriate celebration. i think her smile must still be alive and i think needs the happy back-up. that my by thinking would be how to not let go. grieving can always exist yet turns into the happiness and becomes grief that is a celebratorious thing instead.

and i don't think letting go of being buried, is letting go of her. it just allows you to feel good in a way that does feel good. it is no secret what she means to you. i feel it never should be a secret. and i think being in the world and not being buried can be freeing and become happy celebration. i think that wearing her ring - i personally think wearing hers alone - is good. to me, that is happy and is not being buried. the sacredity of this can allow you the freedom to move in the world and be present on the terms you need but find the happiness that exists around too.

👽
I see what you’re saying, but I just don’t see any way to put it into action in a way that would be genuine rather than just going through motions. It’s like I was saying, there’s nothing life has left to offer me, nothing I want.

To continue the metaphor, why should I climb up out of her grave and back into the world when all the world has ever done was kick me in the teeth while she’s the only bit of safety and comfort I’ve ever found?
 

Gonz

₲‹›Ŋʑ
#16
Hi

I'm so sorry for your loss. I can relate so much to everything that you have said.
My husband died 6 years ago this month but it feels like it was yesterday.
I wish it was as easy to move on as professionals seem to suggest.
Moving on seems to represent forgetting hubby and that's something I could never do.
I wish things were not so painful for us.
Hugs *sadhug

So so tired.
I’m so sorry that you have to know how this feels.

And yeah, nobody has ever quite been able to explain to me, in concrete terms, how I can “move on” without making her a smaller part of my life or thinking of her less, which I just plain can’t do.
 

seabird

meandering home
SF Supporter
#17
I mean “moving on” feels a lot like letting go of what little sources of comfort I still have, and for what? What do I get in exchange for that? Nothing I actually want
I think knowing what you want is thenwhole point of therapy. I've never completely achieved that level of knowing, but the peace of being okay with exactly who and what you are, @Gonz , that is to me priceless.

I wholeheartedly support what you choose.
As an aside I suppose the therapist cannot ethically support your being okay with things... which puts both of you in an awkward position.

Also. I think your therapist should stop describing what you are doing like that. You've kept your wife's remains close, that is a fact. You have done the best you can; that is enough.

Selfishly we/I want you around. The love you have is a powerful light.
 
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Gonz

₲‹›Ŋʑ
#18
What do you think Jessica would have wanted done with her ashes?
I have a plan, and I think she would have approved. I’m going to keep them with me because that’s where she belongs, with someone who loves her rather than alone in a place she has no connection to. And, when I die, I want our ashes mixed and poured into a stream in the park where we had our second kiss.

I would have gone with our first kiss, but the sidewalk outside a Mexican restaurant doesn’t really seem like the most romantic final resting place.
 

dandelions

me
SF Supporter
#19
I see what you’re saying, but I just don’t see any way to put it into action in a way that would be genuine rather than just going through motions. It’s like I was saying, there’s nothing life has left to offer me, nothing I want.

To continue the metaphor, why should I climb up out of her grave and back into the world when all the world has ever done was kick me in the teeth while she’s the only bit of safety and comfort I’ve ever found?
i think my comments were my own selfishness Gonz. but I can't say "never mind". and some how i don't know if or how i could apollogize for offering selfishness because i also think it would work. I simply am here to offer some kind of tool to fight the beast. the beast for sure has us each fighting different wars.

i can equate it to one experience in my own life, however you and anyone else would see right away it is not the same thing. i can attempt to relate it to another, but that digs deep into my own reason for ending up here on this site and you may recall i don't even know the reasons for my torment. your search is for something lost, mine for something never found.

i can only say that my own gut rreaction is that for a friend who i scarcely know, i wish you might find some kind of accord that could work for you. is sufferning the pain the same thing from one person to another? if so, would the solutions be the same or different?

i know i can suggest something but it really is only through experience that whatever can happen might. perhaps we are on two different sides of the same beast and my experience simply does not apply to yours. but now you do know my thoughts as we fight our adversaries. i do think we somehow are comrades.
👽
 
#20
She had a chance to prevent that. Many chances. If she wanted for me to not be miserable, she should have listened on the many many occasions when I begged her to stay clean and told her the pills were going to kill her.
My impression is that opioid addiction is on another level among addictive substances. While I think everyone has some risk of becoming an addict, for some people addiction is much more intense. I've heard of people engaging in insane levels of self injury in order to get prescribed opioids. I'm not sure it's even possible for some people to quit once they're hooked.
Sorry. I love her and miss her so fucking much, but there’s still a lot of anger there too.
Nothing to be sorry about. You're just expressing how you feel.

Imho, the anger that you have would be better directed at the pharmaceutical industry that was pushing drugs that they knew were addictive in order to maximize profits. The PBS documentary "Opioids, Inc." gives you an idea of what complete bastards they were (and are).
 

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