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Empathy and Advice Welcomed Therapists keep telling me I behave like a CSA victim. Trigger warning CSA

LumberJack

Huggy Bear 🐻
#1
I kind of feel like I have to write about this, and I’m interested in feedback, even if it’s just “ewwww, you’re a deviant!!” TW because slightly graphic

Yeah, so I have no memories of ever being a child and being touched inappropriately, as in an adult making any kind of incursion on my intimate areas. Which is not to say that I was never sexually harassed or touched in a way that felt icky, though, but I don’t consider that abuse so much as an adult probing my boundaries.

The harassment came when I was 14 and working on a construction site. I liked the attention, tbh, but in hindsight I don’t think it was appropriate for someone mid-late 20s to graphically describe what they would do to me in a camping trip given the age and size difference. There were also cat-calls, which were scary, but I figured it was just part of the

Physical labor just seems to be done by guys who are rough around the edges, and since I was pretty clearly gay, the interest of a guy with 16” biceps and washboard abs was not entirely unwelcome. Does that make me kind of weird or creepy? That’s a big fear of mine.

Nonetheless I have certain behavioral problems that multiple therapists over the years have asked me point blank if this has happened. I ask why they think that and the response is that the fears and behaviors that I have around sex are characteristics of an abuse survivor. Complicating this is the therapist I saw for my addiction issues said there is such a thing as “covert” abuse which is intimidating behavior or speech that has certain overtones. According to him what I talked about re: certain church authorities was covert abuse. Whatever.

So I feel really conflicted because it keeps coming up. I wonder if I should even be concerned, or should I just focus on my weird feelings and behaviors instead. It’s really the decisions I make in the present that I need to address, regardless of the origin story. IDK I feel like I have been keeping a secret and I wanted to get it out in a safe place.
 
#2
I think it's good to post about this if you'd like to. I don't know if you're a CSA victim or not, but either way no one here is going to accuse of being a deviant.
 
#4
Personally i feel that:
Yes, it was wrong to have someone of that age, or any adult age, say things like that to an adolescent. No matter how mature they act, think, or behave.

No, you are not creepy or weird for thinking and feeling those things. Especially given your age. That age is when everything is attractive, when exploration if thoughts and feelings take hold, the desire to try all things and find who one is, what one wants and desires in all aspects of life.

Your conflicting feelings are more than valid. You feel them. You think them. They are real and have loads of validity to them. You are fully in the right to think n feel how you want and do. You are also in the right to act how you want and feel as long as it doesn't put another life in danger in any way shape or form.

It is fully up to you how you wish to proceed with therapy. They are there to guide you through your treatment. Not demand that you do it a certain way.

Ok... that's the end of my feelings on this... for now.

Hugs Jackie!
 

Gard

Well-Known Member
#5
I kind of feel like I have to write about this, and I’m interested in feedback, even if it’s just “ewwww, you’re a deviant!!” TW because slightly graphic

Yeah, so I have no memories of ever being a child and being touched inappropriately, as in an adult making any kind of incursion on my intimate areas. Which is not to say that I was never sexually harassed or touched in a way that felt icky, though, but I don’t consider that abuse so much as an adult probing my boundaries.

The harassment came when I was 14 and working on a construction site. I liked the attention, tbh, but in hindsight I don’t think it was appropriate for someone mid-late 20s to graphically describe what they would do to me in a camping trip given the age and size difference. There were also cat-calls, which were scary, but I figured it was just part of the

Physical labor just seems to be done by guys who are rough around the edges, and since I was pretty clearly gay, the interest of a guy with 16” biceps and washboard abs was not entirely unwelcome. Does that make me kind of weird or creepy? That’s a big fear of mine.

Nonetheless I have certain behavioral problems that multiple therapists over the years have asked me point blank if this has happened. I ask why they think that and the response is that the fears and behaviors that I have around sex are characteristics of an abuse survivor. Complicating this is the therapist I saw for my addiction issues said there is such a thing as “covert” abuse which is intimidating behavior or speech that has certain overtones. According to him what I talked about re: certain church authorities was covert abuse. Whatever.

So I feel really conflicted because it keeps coming up. I wonder if I should even be concerned, or should I just focus on my weird feelings and behaviors instead. It’s really the decisions I make in the present that I need to address, regardless of the origin story. IDK I feel like I have been keeping a secret and I wanted to get it out in a safe place.
Sometimes it's just good to talk it out, even if no one will give good advice.
 

Reality

SF Supporter
#6
Just my personal experience here from what therapy or what i call counselling as I only had one real therapist in life.

I ended up just going around in circles, retelling it, reliving it, never felt that it helped me. I think for me at least, the stuff that happened will sometimes invade my thoughts, they come out of no where. I find it better to distract and not think (I know that isn't always easy) about things that were hurtful to me in the past. It's always been a huge problem for me to dwell on the past.

We can only live in the present. I'm trying to but not doing a good job at all right now so who am i to say...I do think too that it was wrong what happened to you at just 14, what they did because of your age, not what you felt...it's completely normal that you had been attracted to them.

You're not creepy for having those thoughts. Then I as a 17 year old girl being attracted to a 30 year old teacher would be called creepy.

And if the church hurt you, that makes me very angry. I'm sorry for what you've been through.
 
#7
I kind of feel like I have to write about this, and I’m interested in feedback, even if it’s just “ewwww, you’re a deviant!!” TW because slightly graphic

Yeah, so I have no memories of ever being a child and being touched inappropriately, as in an adult making any kind of incursion on my intimate areas. Which is not to say that I was never sexually harassed or touched in a way that felt icky, though, but I don’t consider that abuse so much as an adult probing my boundaries.

The harassment came when I was 14 and working on a construction site. I liked the attention, tbh, but in hindsight I don’t think it was appropriate for someone mid-late 20s to graphically describe what they would do to me in a camping trip given the age and size difference. There were also cat-calls, which were scary, but I figured it was just part of the

Physical labor just seems to be done by guys who are rough around the edges, and since I was pretty clearly gay, the interest of a guy with 16” biceps and washboard abs was not entirely unwelcome. Does that make me kind of weird or creepy? That’s a big fear of mine.

Nonetheless I have certain behavioral problems that multiple therapists over the years have asked me point blank if this has happened. I ask why they think that and the response is that the fears and behaviors that I have around sex are characteristics of an abuse survivor. Complicating this is the therapist I saw for my addiction issues said there is such a thing as “covert” abuse which is intimidating behavior or speech that has certain overtones. According to him what I talked about re: certain church authorities was covert abuse. Whatever.

So I feel really conflicted because it keeps coming up. I wonder if I should even be concerned, or should I just focus on my weird feelings and behaviors instead. It’s really the decisions I make in the present that I need to address, regardless of the origin story. IDK I feel like I have been keeping a secret and I wanted to get it out in a safe place.
To answer your question, no, it does not.
 

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