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Venting What set off the French Revolution Again?

LumberJack

Huggy Bear 🐻
#1
I minored in Economics as an undergraduate. It matches the way my brain is wired so well that it’s stimulating to learn. It’s a way to apply some advanced math to understand human society. How cool is that? I’m fascinated by the intersection between the hard sciences with the social sciences. How is it that the same quantitative patterns we find in nature, and even the farthest reaches of the universe also show up in anthropology?

I learned in my second semester of macro that a society becomes increasingly unstable as wealth distribution becomes more lopsided. It makes me wonder about the sanity of people who want to take funding away from school lunches and pediatric cancer research so that they get more tax breaks. They are already paying lower effective tax rates than the poorest of the poor!

I don’t think this is a political issue. It’s a moral one. The wealthy are shooting themselves in the foot, because the more they steal from the poor, the more desperate people will be ready to rise up to seek justice. I am not talking about through the courts. The highest court is obviously corrupt, and the executive branch just ignores every ruling that seeks to check their power.

I’m talking about revolution. The upper class needs the other 99% of us struggling so that we are too worn out working a soul crushing job because there’s no other practical way to get health insurance. So when billionaires cripple the economy by hoarding an ever greater amount of the money supply, they increase the number of people without jobs. Suddenly more and more people have the time and energy to rise up. They will be desperate anyway with nothing to lose. I don’t see this as a far off scenario.
 

Gonz

₲‹›Ŋʑ
#2
It’s not that big of a step between (to pick an example at random) cheering on a guy who shoots an insurance ceo and bringing out the guillotines.
 
#3
don’t think this is a political issue. It’s a moral one. The wealthy are shooting themselves in the foot, because the more they steal from the poor, the more desperate people will be ready to rise up to seek justice
Maybe
Or maybe we're all too busy fighting each other on stupid issues to do anything about it
Almost makes you wonder if its by design, doesnt it
Divide and conquer
 

Shinzon1

Well-Known Member
#4
I don't know I have between pretty black pill doomer about this question.

I'm not liking that it seems like the most rational conclusion is to call the world as it is a feature rather then a bug.

Tldr of the argument is what another name for a oligarch or a worker?....peasant and feudal lord.
 
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LumberJack

Huggy Bear 🐻
#5
I'm not liking that it seems like the most rational conclusion is to call the world as it is a feature rather then a bug.
I frequently find myself wondering what is malevolence, and what is incompetence. I guess it depends on what the actors’ goals are, and since propaganda is part of the game, that’s up for speculation. The question is academic at present. We’re getting screwed, hard. Even the people in the 90-98th percentile of income are falling behind, while billionaires are taking over entirely.

We have been getting screwed for decades, as pointed out by George Carlin. Really the trend of wealth distribution being more lopsided over time has been going on since Regan’s tax cuts, and possibly longer. It’s just that the oligarchs have so much power now that they are doing it right out in the open, literally buying elections. The useful idiot they have in the big chair is actively laying the groundwork to disenfranchise anyone who disagrees, with the full, enthusiastic support of the right wing of the legislature.
 

Shinzon1

Well-Known Member
#6
Has it ever been so that the poor or less fortunate haven't been screwed? As best as I can tell the times where we haven't (in probably our great grandparents lifetimes) seem to be the exception rather then the rule. What came before that? The depression....the gilded age....sweatshops? Before that some sort of agrarian hellscape. Best examples of trying something different have just ended up with similar less efficient and bloodier ends.

I just don't know how useful it is the compare today to a world we never actually had or something that faded in the historical winds.
 

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