Reason I posted that is because it's been forever and it's just not really going away. It didn't just happen. It's been 7-8 years now. Crazy, yeah. It was completely out of the blue. Maybe I wasn't paying enough attention, which is why it was so sudden to me. Whatever...it's way, way in the past now. It's not going away though. I put so much into the family and the future and then it all ended. Said in another comment I was a stay-at-home dad for much of our relationship. Three kids, cooking, cleaning, school field trips, coaching, volunteering, home repairs and projects. There was no real fighting, no real drama, no violence at all. Lots of family trips and outings with just us two. Wife got lipo and a breast "enhancement" and 6 months later was cheating, multiple people/times I found out. I've tried dating since but I just don't feel it. I rarely feel anything anymore, and when I do it's not good. I've tried therapy, I'm on meds, just dulls me if anything. I guess I'm just getting it out, I don't expect anyone to have the magical answer.