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To lose weight

Survivorist

Black sheep of my family....
#1
Fighting overweight? Besides sport -> just one tip: Only for 2 weeks - do not eat and only drink water with lemon (fresh pressed, approx. 5 or 6 lemons for 1,5 liters of water). At least 4,5 (better 6 ) liters a day. You will be more than astonished. And yes, you can have coffee in the morning (no sugar though and no milk - black, ok?). NO FOOD ALLOWED. Sport is really recommended (and if it's only walking, but min. 15000 steps a day). You will be very astonished of the result.
 

puffymilk

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#2
Thank you for this… I actually needed simple tips to lose some weight. I feel like I’m too fat for my height.

I have 2 questions:

1) By no food, you mean no food at all? As in no breakfast, lunch, dinner, snacks, etc? Sorry if that sounds like a stupid question. I imagine I would be super cranky though.

2) I looked up on Google that 15,000 steps a day would take around 2 hours and 20 minutes. Is it okay if I take breaks between those walks?
 

Survivorist

Black sheep of my family....
#3
Hi there,

1) Yes, zero food, no sugar etc. A coffee in the morning is ok. After two or three days hunger is gone, don't worry.
2) Of course you can make breaks, but you will get fitter. Just see after 2 weeks.

Attention: first day with only lemon water, make sure you are not far from the toilet or are in nature etc.
 

MisterBGone

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#4
Hello @Survivorist - I do feel that your advice may have certain elements of truth to them (e. g., "effectiveness") . I also feel that--by asking someone who is a novice, or green at fasting, and not say in some danger of things becoming an imminent danger... That then this is just a tough, and to some, an unreasonable expectation - or ask? If you will. . . Now, what I mean by that, is that, many who try & go ahead and fast for two weeks out the shoot, are going to fail & fall flat on their face(s), at some point. And mostly-likely; fairly early on - if I had to guess... Everyone is different, of course. And if you were coming more from the mindset, or a health professional who views (it as) their job, to simply tell or provide you w/the info. with which you seek: & then after that, it is up to the patient, or the person to be able to achieve or do it (because that's not the person's responsibility, or job). Then that is a different story, and I can see where you're coming from. To me, this may be a bit more like, telling someone to go out & start training for a marathon, by beginning with running 10-15-20, mi. something like that / take your pick* when they are not already a runner or maybe even an athlete to begin with. Instead of building yourself up towards the 26.2 mi journey, or race, as I'd imagine anyway, one does. Sorry if my analogy was poor, but perhaps you can see the reasoning (behind it)?

@puffymilk -there's a gazillion ways to begin Intermittent Fasting if you are interested. I'd recommend the Youtube vid's by Jason Fung, a Canadian Nephrologist, as an easy to understand, and begin to the program or regimen, if interested. Or if you really want to go all-out, and kamikazee-style (from the beginning, or the get-go, then by all means, give this other way, or suggestion a go). I'm not saying it won't work. I'm saying it might not. So I just want you to have some preparedness towards what you might face, or encounter going forward. Whereas @Survivorist reminds me of a VERY HEALTHY man, I once worked with, 20 yrs. older than me maybe. Had never even eaten at McDonalds. Now he would go on these extended fasts every so often (went by the seasons, and were lengthy, but may be not quite as - as our own @Survivorist ; but close, and as in close-enough). And he didn't have a single ounce of fat on him, in spite of his height. Looked like a basketball player. He told me, it was not to lose weight but to rid his organs of toxins, or something similar. Clean/flush out his organs every once in awhile. But boy, was he miserable looking at certain points & time of. Though here again: he was well-trained, and practiced in the establishment, or habit, way of living & eating (or lack thereof)~ lifestyle, and so on & so forth. Had been doing this for many years, if not decades

I believe the general point, or principle, is that after that 2-3 window, or sometime during it. Your body will have begun to feed on its own fat sources, supplies, and storages for energy. Hence, the lost weight. :) Which sounds great! If you can do it... As I said, there are more gradual ways to ease into it. Look into them, if interested. And also. Oh, I don't kknow? I think I
ve already said far too much as it is! Was not looking to, or meaning/intending to Offend, @Survivorist ~so hopefully I won't, or haven't. As I've said you are more of a professional, in the/this matter. Take care, one & all! ;) Peace out~*> b.mr^
 

MisterBGone

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#5
Apologies to @Survivorist ~for I don't feel I accurately expressed myself in the beginning to you. I do agree with, and believe you, on or in terms of , the facts as you've written them a7 will be presenting them here within. It's more the ability of others, beging agble to gofllow such regimented sctructre, to be able to... that I have my worries or concerns about~* :) Hope you're having a good day! And be well.
 

MisterBGone

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#6
I'll give you an ex. @puffymilk -& that being: me, myself &...:D
I've sarted looking in to this in. . . 2017? was it!
And so anyway, hardly a disciplined or militant, military like following o f said structure d plan or antying
but I'v e had my fair share of expeirence with~
& here is what I will tell you, has happened w/tme!
mostly fasts that last 3 days or less.
A bunch taht went (for) 5 days
& my record is last summer at 7 days...
now could I have continued on? Possibly; [probably, but
basically waht hapens is hat
no w probided that yu'uve still got some body fat (or internal/organ fat) left to burn
visceral< I believe it is called? been tooo oong since I'v ehad a look^
psychology will begin to kick in
& you will think about food
and believe you are hungry
evne though
physiologically
iif you cask your self honestly
you bropably are not! :D Isn't that wond4rful or brillijnat?
yes, smarvelous & s'wonder. . ;) peace ^ goood luck& (= oy ved!
 

MisterBGone

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#7
And also, I have not fasted a single-day (that's 24 hts.) in ...closing in on a year (end of last summer/start of fall)
So that toom is also, a record, or personal best for mee too then there! (^; hahaha... sorry don't mean to belittle anyone, or anything
tha's t just me being self-defprecaationgs
 

MisterBGone

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#8
Another thing you can try: is to cut sugar & carbs from your diet. While not overly easy either... this will most-likely, yield some impressive results. I'd started, technically doing this sort of fasting way before I'd ever/even heard of it, but just didn't realize or know it - & I wasn't necessarily doing it to lose weight! But so anyway, what that was, was to just simply eat 4 eggs, once per day. Usually in the late morning, or early afternoon (somewhere in betw. 10 am-2pm). Then on the week ends, I think I'd eat frozen pizza & mcdon'ads! hahah but I'm not rally sure~
;)
Anyway, it was more about simplification I think, and then I did do that for quite a lot of certain points in my adult life and for veyr long goes or stretches at it. Even though it was years before I'd even hear the term... Lt. yers., in fact~&* or so it seems: D best wishes.
 

puffymilk

SF Supporter
#9
Another thing you can try: is to cut sugar & carbs from your diet. While not overly easy either... this will most-likely, yield some impressive results. I'd started, technically doing this sort of fasting way before I'd ever/even heard of it, but just didn't realize or know it - & I wasn't necessarily doing it to lose weight! But so anyway, what that was, was to just simply eat 4 eggs, once per day. Usually in the late morning, or early afternoon (somewhere in betw. 10 am-2pm). Then on the week ends, I think I'd eat frozen pizza & mcdon'ads! hahah but I'm not rally sure~
;)
Anyway, it was more about simplification I think, and then I did do that for quite a lot of certain points in my adult life and for veyr long goes or stretches at it. Even though it was years before I'd even hear the term... Lt. yers., in fact~&* or so it seems: D best wishes.
that sounds something like I can do (especially the McDonald’s part lol). And by eggs you mean boiled eggs?
 

Survivorist

Black sheep of my family....
#10
Well, I understand that we are all different. I am speaking only for myself and about what I did, when I was not ok with my weight. I never had any problem with weight - just to tell. But when I stopped smoking it changed of course. The same happened when - for a limited time in Africa - I was so frustrated that I ate too much. Change of climate made as well huge differences - I mean living in the Sahel during the hot season is another thing than living in Europe or Canada. I have never talked to someone about losing weight. Having said this, my form of eating is normally anyway only juice. I can do this for months and months. And just feel good.

If I do more sport I come to the limit between underweight-normal, regular I am normal weight - I was never ever overweight (although I do not really trust BMI calculation or other non-sense, - but see how I feel). Fasting is part of humanities culture. I lived for so many years in Islamic countries and the annual Ramadan time is something - although they eat after sun-set.

Maybe everybody has to find his own way. If possible, I would delete my thread now. I am in this sense maybe a little special and I know it. I cannot eat for months. My record until now is 94 days. And I still go to the gym and do sport. But everybody has his likes, dislikes and knows whats good for him or not. So - sorry. Just wanted to tell, when was very, very well for me and worked. I rather stick to mental illness, when I fall again. Nice WE.
 

MisterBGone

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SF Supporter
#11
Well, I understand that we are all different. I am speaking only for myself and about what I did, when I was not ok with my weight. I never had any problem with weight - just to tell. But when I stopped smoking it changed of course. The same happened when - for a limited time in Africa - I was so frustrated that I ate too much. Change of climate made as well huge differences - I mean living in the Sahel during the hot season is another thing than living in Europe or Canada. I have never talked to someone about losing weight. Having said this, my form of eating is normally anyway only juice. I can do this for months and months. And just feel good.

If I do more sport I come to the limit between underweight-normal, regular I am normal weight - I was never ever overweight (although I do not really trust BMI calculation or other non-sense, - but see how I feel). Fasting is part of humanities culture. I lived for so many years in Islamic countries and the annual Ramadan time is something - although they eat after sun-set.

Maybe everybody has to find his own way. If possible, I would delete my thread now. I am in this sense maybe a little special and I know it. I cannot eat for months. My record until now is 94 days. And I still go to the gym and do sport. But everybody has his likes, dislikes and knows whats good for him or not. So - sorry. Just wanted to tell, when was very, very well for me and worked. I rather stick to mental illness, when I fall again. Nice WE.
No this is all GREAT 👍!!! 👌☺️ 👏 & so thank you for it… I’m coming from a perspective of someone from the USA 🇺🇸 where maybe more people than on average and in other places find it a struggle to control their weight. I do realize how ever that there are not only cultural reasons but also spiritual and religious etc beyond mere health benefits provided one doesn’t have an eating disorder to begin with.
So please don’t take any of my comments or criticisms to heart. They’re coming from as I’ve said probably a far different perspective and place than do yours, @Survivorist ~
I agree on BMI- if you look at linemen in the NFL (our most popular sport 🏈 ) all or most of them would fall or fit into this criteria of being overweight when they are about the furthest thing from overweight 😊
 

MisterBGone

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#13
that sounds something like I can do (especially the McDonald’s part lol). And by eggs you mean boiled eggs?
I mean you can probably have them how ever you want to have them (just don’t throw or toss the yolks as I understand it. They have an abundance of nutrients or good things in them). I made scrambled eggs, 🍳 that turned out like omelets kind of flat like pancakes 🥞 slightly browned on the outside and bordering on raw on the in, which is generally the same thing you get with me no matter what I cook in a fry pan! ; D
 

MisterBGone

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#14
So, in conclusion—& in the end: Don’t listen to me, @Survivorist ! For, I don’t know anything - about, any thing!! …trust me; truer words have never been spoken on this forum. 🙌
 

puffymilk

SF Supporter
#15
I mean you can probably have them how ever you want to have them (just don’t throw or toss the yolks as I understand it. They have an abundance of nutrients or good things in them). I made scrambled eggs, 🍳 that turned out like omelets kind of flat like pancakes 🥞 slightly browned on the outside and bordering on raw on the in, which is generally the same thing you get with me no matter what I cook in a fry pan! ; D
nice, that sounds delicious
 

MisterBGone

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#16
nice, that sounds delicious
Oh, I guess it is--or, at least I find it so! ;) Maybe more of a techincally 'Fried,' scaramble d egg, then?! ;D Or, I dunno... All I remegmbr one-time, is like ten years ago, in a rough grp. hm. A woman who every one was afraid of (at the time they just sort of "Grounded," her a s punishment as it was not yet against the rules/reg's or statg e law; (but) I'd preferred a dif' approach: one in which something dif &/or outside the box fromt eh more military stance of. Follow every last rule down to the tea, or pay a punishment/appropriate & by the book: 'Price!' Anyway, that tug-o-war; was over. As the punishing staff and provoking at that - give grounding for 72 hrs. while they jet out the back dr. end of day/afternoon on a Fri, when they won't be back till first thing Mon. a.m. / "BRILLINAT!" & We get to deal with them all heat ed & frustrated over that fact. Sorry can't take you to go see your kid at such & such a fuciont. dumb dumb suspended your visiting/comm. privilgedges // but the upshot is, they left as BOSS. And no one got the upper hand on them..:) So, anyway her big thing, in terms of posititvie interest wws was cooking. So in great distress one evening after all of that fact, I had offered to jmake her my specialty, given that she was not having what was already on the (scheduled) menu~* /// in short; I'd held my breathe, big~time, 7 braced fro.. The Worst! Insteead, fwhat I got, was massive caring happines &b understanding, apprecaiteion & so on for all of my efforts and I guess she d thought theyd tasted decent. Or perhaps it was my gesture(s) tht had one her over. Slmethign with hwich, I' m pretty sure had happened later on / & again // at anotehr home /// also, well it's difficult to compare them so let's just say if not difficult the n fairly high behavior. There's no way these ladies or women, could have possibly stood let alone liked my cooking. I beleive, and stand by the fact, that it wass more or geting a break or a relief, from the onslaught of what was suffered from theh other staff who was here again, a bit more ruling with the or an, IRON FIST. Juice is at 3:00 PM!!!! Not, 3:05 PM. Sorry, you missed it, better luck next time dinner's in 2.5 hr.s & you get a small si p of water w/your medxs b/f then~* :D Well, we can't be breaiking gthe rulse her e& then or what will they have to be taking uos for a ride on or for, then - (if we do / bend here, U see?)? ! (^; _~*> here or once agan,I tried to find always a path of least, or at least, elsser resistance, as it were. Sometimes it worked, sometimes not. But more often thatn, I'd favor or prefer my batting avg. (of success/ratio) than most. They may disagree. If here & reading thigns now~!* ;) Peace, i'm aoutta here. . :D Time is 10:30 if InnO is wondering???
 

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